What If? Lab
What if Earth had no Moon?
The Moon helps make the sea go in and out. What if there were no Moon? Let's find out in Olly's lab!
The Moon's pull stretches Earth's oceans and gives us most of our tides. Take the Moon away in our tide model and see what is left: the Sun still makes tides, but they are less than half as big as the Moon's.
Tidal stretching scales as M/d³, so the nearby Moon out-tides the vastly heavier Sun. Set the Moon's mass to zero in an equilibrium tide model and only the solar tide, 0.46 of today's lunar tide, remains, with no spring-neap cycle.
The big question
At the beach, the sea comes up the sand. Later it goes back down.
The Moon helps make that happen. What if Earth had no Moon at all?
If you spend a day at the beach, you can watch the water creep up the sand and then slide back down again. These rises and falls are called tides, and most coasts get two high tides and two low tides each day.
The Moon is the main cause. So what would the tides be like if Earth had no Moon? In this lab you can remove the Moon from a tide model and find out.
Most coastlines see two high and two low tides roughly every 24 hours and 50 minutes, a rhythm tied to the Moon's motion across the sky. NOAA describes the Moon as the dominant force behind Earth's tides, with the Sun playing a smaller part.
This lab asks what would remain if the Moon's mass were zero: would the oceans stop rising and falling, or would some tide still be left, and how large would it be?
Try the experiment
Make a prediction
Olly takes the Moon away. What happens to the sea?
If Earth had no Moon, what would happen to the tides?
With the Moon's mass set to zero and the Sun still present, what does the tide model show?
- The tides stop completely
- Small tides are left, made by the Sun
- The tides get bigger
| Control | In our world | What ifโฆ | Range |
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| Moon mass ยท How heavy the Moon is compared with our real Moon. Zero means Earth has no Moon at all. | 1 × | 0 × | 0โ10 × |
| Sun’s tides ยท The Sun raises tides too. Switch them off to see that, with no Moon and no Sun, nothing would stretch the oceans. | 1 on/off | — | 0โ1 on/off |
| Moon’s place in its month ยท Where the Moon is in its month. With a Moon, lining up with the Sun gives big spring tides; with no Moon this makes no difference. | 0 ° | — | 0โ360 ° |
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Established fact
The Moon makes most of our tides. The Sun makes some too.
The Moon is the main cause of Earth's tides; the Sun's tide-raising effect is about half as strong.
Because tidal forces scale as M/d³, the Sun's tide-generating force is about half the Moon's, despite its far greater mass (NOAA).
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What the model shows
In the model, with no Moon, the tides get much smaller.
In this model, removing the Moon shrinks the tide strength from 1.46 to 0.46: about a third of today's spring tides.
With m = 0 the model leaves only the solar term, S ≈ 0.46 of today's lunar tide, and an equilibrium range near 0.25 m instead of 0.78 m.
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What the model shows
With no Moon, the tides are the same size every day.
Without a Moon, the model has no spring tides and no neap tides: the tides stay the same size all month.
Spring and neap tides come from the changing angle between the lunar and solar tides; with no lunar term, spring equals neap in the model.
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An idea scientists discuss
Scientists think a world with no Moon would have changed in other ways too.
The Moon's tides have been slowly braking Earth's spin for billions of years, so scientists expect a Moon-free Earth would have changed in other ways too, which this model cannot show.
Lunar tidal friction has slowed Earth's rotation over geological time; without it, Earth's day length and history would have differed, by amounts this tide-strength model cannot estimate.
In our world
The Moon gently pulls on the sea. The water piles up a little on the side near the Moon.
It piles up on the far side too. Earth spins through both piles each day.
The Moon pulls a little harder on the side of Earth that faces it than on the far side. That difference stretches the oceans into two bulges, one toward the Moon and one away from it. As Earth spins, your beach passes through both bulges, so you get two high tides a day.
The Sun stretches the oceans too, but only about half as much. When the Sun and Moon line up, at new and full moon, their tides add up to big spring tides. When they pull at right angles, the tides are smaller neap tides.
Tidal stretching is the difference in a body's pull across Earth's diameter, roughly 2GMR/d³, so it scales with mass over distance cubed. The Sun is about 27 million times more massive than the Moon but about 390 times farther away, so its tide is only about 0.46 of the Moon's.
In the model, today's Moon gives a tide strength of 1. Lined up with the Sun (spring tide) the total is 1.46; at right angles (neap tide) it is 0.54. On an imaginary planet-wide ocean the spring-tide range would be about 0.78 meters.
Take the Moon away
In our pretend lab, Olly takes the Moon away.
The sea still goes up and down a little. The Sun is making small tides!
Set the Moon's mass to zero and the tide meter drops from 1.46 to 0.46. The tides do not vanish, because the Sun is still stretching the oceans. But they are much smaller: about a third of today's biggest tides.
Something else disappears too. Without a Moon to line up with the Sun, there are no extra-big spring tides and no small neap tides. The tides are the same size every day, and the moon-phase readout says there is no Moon.
With the lunar term set to zero, the model's combined tide T = √(L² + S² + 2LS cos 2θ) reduces to S ≈ 0.46 at every angle. Spring and neap become identical, so the fortnightly spring-neap cycle disappears. The ideal open-ocean range falls from about 0.78 m to about 0.25 m.
This is a thought experiment carried out with a model. The Moon cannot simply vanish, and the model only answers one question: how strong the tidal stretching would be.
Why it happens
The Moon is small, but it is close to Earth. Close things make big tides.
The Sun is huge, but very far away. So its tides are smaller.
Tides are not made by how hard something pulls, but by how much its pull changes from one side of Earth to the other. That change shrinks very fast with distance: twice as far gives only one eighth as much stretching.
The Moon is small but close, so its pull changes a lot across Earth. The Sun is enormous but so far away that its pull is almost the same on both sides. That is why the Sun's tides are only about half as big as the Moon's.
The Sun's gravitational pull on Earth is about 177 times the Moon's, yet its tide-raising effect is smaller, because tidal acceleration depends on the gradient of the field, which scales as M/d³ rather than M/d².
The model's limits: it uses equilibrium tide theory, an ocean covering the whole planet that takes its shape instantly, and circular orbits. Real tides depend on coastlines, ocean depth and basin resonances, so the meter figures are for an imaginary global ocean, not any real beach.
Tides on real coasts
Some beaches have tiny tides. Some bays have giant tides!
The shape of the coast makes a big difference.
Real tides vary enormously from place to place. In the Bay of Fundy in Canada, the water can rise and fall by more than 16 meters, while in most of the Mediterranean Sea the tide rises and falls by less than half a meter. The shape of the coast and the depth of the sea can make the tide much bigger or smaller.
So a world with no Moon would still have tides, but every coast would get only the Sun's small, steady share of them, shaped by its own bays and beaches.
Observed tidal ranges run from well under a meter on many coasts (the Mediterranean's tides average about 40 cm) to about 16 meters in the Bay of Fundy, because coastlines, ocean depth and basin resonances reshape the tide. Real high tides also lag the Moon by hours and vary from place to place.
The model also leaves out the long-term story: tidal friction is slowly lengthening Earth's day (by about 0.002 seconds per century) and pushing the Moon outward. A Moon-free Earth would have lost that braking, an idea the model does not calculate.
Amazing facts
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The Moon is moving away from Earth, very, very slowly.
The Moon drifts about 3.8 centimeters farther from Earth every year, so it was a little closer when your grandparents were children.
NASA gives the Moon's recession rate as 3.8 cm per year; OpenStax explains that tidal friction slowing Earth's spin is what makes the Moon spiral outward.
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The Sun makes tides too, even though it is very far away.
Even with no Moon, Earth would still have tides, because the Sun stretches the oceans too, a bit less than half as much as the Moon does.
The solar tide is about 0.46 of the lunar tide; their alternating alignment produces the spring-neap cycle roughly every two weeks.
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In one bay in Canada, the tide can rise higher than a house.
In the Bay of Fundy in Canada, the difference between high and low tide can be more than 16 meters.
The Bay of Fundy's tides can reach about 16.3 m, while many open coasts see well under a meter, so local geography matters as much as the Moon.
Words to know
- tide
- the regular rise and fall of the sea along the coast
- tidal bulge
- the stretched-out part of the ocean that points toward or away from the Moon
- spring tide
- an extra-big tide that happens when the Sun and Moon line up
- neap tide
- a smaller tide that happens when the Sun and Moon pull at right angles
- model
- a simplified picture or calculation scientists use to explore how something works
Discovery challenge
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What makes most of our tides?
What is the main cause of Earth's tides?
What produces the largest tidal effect on Earth?
- The wind
- The Moon
- Big fish
Show the answer
The Moon
The Moon's pull makes most of our tides.
The Moon's pull stretches the oceans into bulges, making most of our tides.
The Moon: its tidal effect is about twice the Sun's because it is so much closer.
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With no Moon, what would the tides be like?
In the model, what happens to the tides with no Moon?
With the Moon's mass set to zero, the model's tide strength…
- No tides at all
- Small tides from the Sun
- Giant tides
Show the answer
Small tides from the Sun
Small tides would be left. The Sun makes them.
The Sun still stretches the oceans, so small tides are left, about a third of today's biggest.
…falls to the solar value, about 0.46, the same at every angle.
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Why does the Moon make bigger tides than the giant Sun?
Why does the Moon raise bigger tides than the much heavier Sun?
The Moon out-tides the Sun mainly because tidal force depends on…
- The Moon is closer
- The Moon is heavier
- The Moon is brighter
Show the answer
The Moon is closer
The Moon is much closer to us.
Tides depend on how much a pull changes across Earth, and that drops fast with distance, so the close Moon wins.
…mass divided by distance cubed, which strongly favors the nearby Moon.
Experiments to try
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if the Moon were closer? The Moon's tides depend very strongly on distance. Bring the Moon to half its distance in our model and its stretching of the oceans becomes 2 × 2 × 2 = 8 times stronger, while each trip around Earth takes only about ten days.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if the Moon and Sun lined up? The Moon and the Sun both stretch Earth's oceans into tides. When they pull at right angles, at a quarter moon, their stretches partly cancel. In our model, lining them up at new moon makes the tides about 2.7 times as strong: these big tides are called spring tides, and they have nothing to do with the season.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if Earth had two moons? Our Moon goes round Earth in a neat, repeating loop. Add a second moon in our orbit model and watch what changes: the two moons tug on each other as well as on Earth, so their paths start to wobble.
Explore next
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if the Moon were closer? The Moon's tides depend very strongly on distance. Bring the Moon to half its distance in our model and its stretching of the oceans becomes 2 × 2 × 2 = 8 times stronger, while each trip around Earth takes only about ten days.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if the Moon and Sun lined up? The Moon and the Sun both stretch Earth's oceans into tides. When they pull at right angles, at a quarter moon, their stretches partly cancel. In our model, lining them up at new moon makes the tides about 2.7 times as strong: these big tides are called spring tides, and they have nothing to do with the season.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if Earth had two moons? Our Moon goes round Earth in a neat, repeating loop. Add a second moon in our orbit model and watch what changes: the two moons tug on each other as well as on Earth, so their paths start to wobble.
- Watch Geography Tides Tides are the slow rise and fall of the sea along coasts. The Moon's gravity, helped a little by the Sun, pulls Earth's oceans into two bulges. As Earth turns through them, most coasts get two high tides and two low tides every 24 hours and 50 minutes.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if the Sun disappeared? The Sun cannot vanish, and it will keep shining for billions of years. But imagining it gone answers a real question: what keeps Earth going round? Switch off the Sun's pull in our model and Earth stops curving and travels on in a straight line.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if Earth rotated faster? One spin of Earth gives us one day and one night. Spin Earth twice as fast in our model and the days and nights each shrink to about six hours, with less time for the ground to warm up or cool down.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if Earth rotated slower? Slow Earth's spin to one turn a week in our model and a single afternoon lasts days. The ground has time to bake in the long sunshine and to chill in the long dark, so the gap between the hottest and coldest times grows far bigger.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if Earth stopped rotating? You might think a world that does not spin would have no day and night. But Earth also travels around the Sun. Stop the spin in our model and the Sun still crosses the sky, just once a year: six months of daylight, then six months of night.
For parents & teachers
What children will learn
- The Moon's gravity is the main cause of ocean tides; the Sun adds a smaller tide.
- Tides depend on how a pull changes across Earth, so distance matters more than size.
- Spring and neap tides come from the Sun and Moon lining up or pulling at right angles.
- A model answers one question at a time and has limits, such as ignoring the shapes of real coasts.
Recommended ages: 5 to 17 ยท About 15 minutes
Talk about it
- What would be different for beach visitors, sailors or tide-pool animals if tides were smaller?
- Why might the Sun, which is far bigger than the Moon, still make smaller tides?
- What other things does the Moon do for us, apart from tides?
Try at home or in class
- Look up a tide table for a nearby or favorite coast and mark the new and full moons. Are the biggest tides near those dates?
- Stretch a loop of elastic or a rubber band by pulling one side harder than the other, and talk about how a difference in pull makes a stretch.
Key vocabulary: tide, tidal bulge, spring tide, neap tide, model
Where these facts come from
- What causes tides? (Tides and Water Levels tutorial) , NOAA National Ocean Service Education
- Tidal variations: the influence of position and distance , NOAA National Ocean Service Education
- Astronomy 2e, §4.6 Ocean Tides and the Moon , OpenStax
- University Physics Volume 1, §13.6 Tidal Forces , OpenStax
- Frequency of tides: the lunar day , NOAA National Ocean Service Education
- Moon Fact Sheet , NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
- Tides around the world (Mediterranean tides) , AVISO+ satellite altimetry (CNES)
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