What If? Lab
What if a plant lived in a dark cave?
Plants need light to make their food. A deep cave is very dark. What would happen to a plant down there? Let's take Olly's leaf into a cave!
A green leaf makes sugar from light, water and air, but it also uses up a little sugar all the time just to stay alive. Carry our model leaf from bright sunshine into a dim cave and watch what happens when the sugar it makes drops below the sugar it uses.
Net photosynthesis is gross carbon fixation minus respiration, and respiration never stops. Below the light compensation point a leaf runs at a loss. This lab drops the light from 800 to 10 µmol/m²/s, below the model's break-even of about 18, and asks why caves have no green plants in their dark zones, except where people have put lamps.
The big question
Plants make their own food. They need light to do it.
Deep inside a cave, it is very dark. Could a plant live there?
Animals have to find food, but green plants make their own. In photosynthesis, a leaf uses the energy in light to turn water and carbon dioxide from the air into sugar, giving off oxygen.
Caves can be very dark. Near the entrance there is daylight, but deeper in there can be total darkness. So what would happen to a plant growing in a dim cave? This lab lets you dim a model leaf's light almost to nothing and find out.
Photosynthesis needs light, but a plant's cells also respire, breaking down sugar for energy, by day and by night. A leaf's net gain is the difference between the two.
This lab follows one model leaf from bright light into cave gloom and asks a precise question: is there a light level below which the leaf loses more sugar than it makes? It then compares the model with what cave scientists find in real caves, including the green growth that appears beside the lamps in show caves.
Try the experiment
Make a prediction
Olly takes the leaf into a very dim cave. What will happen to its sugar?
The light drops from 800 to 10, a dim cave glow. What will the leaf's sugar do?
Light falls from 800 to 10 µmol/m²/s at 25 °C. What is the sign of net photosynthesis?
- It uses up more sugar than it makes
- It makes a little less sugar
- It makes the same sugar
| Control | In our world | What ifโฆ | Range |
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| Light on the leaf ยท How much light reaches the leaf, in micromoles of light per square meter each second. Full summer sunshine is about 2,000; this lab takes the leaf from 800 down to a cave's 10. | 800 µmol/m²/s | 10 µmol/m²/s | 0โ2000 µmol/m²/s |
| Temperature ยท How warm the leaf is. Try 12 °C, about the temperature inside Mammoth Cave all year round. | 25 °C | — | 0โ50 °C |
| Carbon dioxide ยท Carbon dioxide in the air, in parts per million. About 420 today. | 420 ppm | — | 100โ1200 ppm |
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Established fact
Plants make sugar with light, and use sugar all the time.
Plants make sugar by photosynthesis only in the light, but they break sugar down for energy by respiration day and night.
Photosynthesis takes place only in the light, while respiration continues day and night, degrading sugars produced by photosynthesis (Encyclopedia of the Environment).
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What the model shows
In the model, in a dim cave, the leaf uses more sugar than it makes.
In the model, at a light of 10 the leaf makes about 0.6 units of carbon dioxide into sugar but burns about 1, so its net photosynthesis is about −0.4.
At I = 10 µmol/m²/s, 420 ppm and 25 °C: gross 0.6, respiration 1.0, net −0.4 µmol/m²/s; the two-hour run ends at −0.09 g/m².
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What the model shows
In the model, a cool cave slows the loss, but the leaf still loses sugar.
In the model, cooling the leaf to 12 °C lowers its break-even light from 18 to 16, but at a light of 10 it still loses sugar.
At 12 °C respiration falls to 0.41 µmol/m²/s and the compensation point to 16 µmol/m²/s; net at I = 10 is −0.1.
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Established fact
Deep inside caves it is totally dark, and green plants grow only near the entrance.
A cave's entrance zone gets sunlight and has green plants; its dark zone is in total darkness.
Cave habitats are divided into entrance, twilight and dark zones; green plants grow in the sunlit entrance zone, and the dark zone is totally dark (Missouri State Parks).
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Established fact
Near the lamps in some caves, green algae grow.
At Carlsbad Caverns, algae grow in the dark zone near the electric lights, and park staff keep them under control.
Lampenflora, algae and cyanobacteria around show-cave lighting, damage speleothems; bleach is the commonest treatment (Havlena et al., 2021).
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An idea scientists discuss
A plant that likes shade might last longer in a cave than Olly's leaf.
Plants that grow in deep shade might cope with less light than our model leaf, but no green plant can make food in total darkness.
Shade-adapted species might have lower compensation points than this generic sun leaf; how long any plant survives on reserves in darkness is beyond the model.
A leaf in the sunshine
Outside, the sun is bright. Olly's leaf makes lots of sugar.
The leaf uses a tiny bit of sugar to stay alive. It keeps the rest to grow.
Our model leaf starts outdoors in bright light: 800 units of light on each square meter of leaf every second. Full summer sunshine is about 2,000 of these units. The air has today's carbon dioxide and the leaf is at a comfortable 25 °C.
Press play. The leaf takes in about 12.7 units of carbon dioxide and burns about 1 unit for its own energy, called respiration. That leaves a healthy profit: about 1.27 grams of sugar per hour for every square meter of leaf, or about 2.5 grams over the two-hour run.
At I = 800 µmol/m²/s, 420 ppm CO₂ and 25 °C, gross photosynthesis is 12.7 µmol CO₂/m²/s and respiration 1.0, so net photosynthesis is 11.7 µmol/m²/s, about 1.27 g glucose/m²/h. The model's limiting factor at this light is carbon dioxide, not light.
The 'break-even light' readout shows the model's light compensation point under these conditions: 18 µmol/m²/s, under 1 percent of full sunlight (about 2,000 µmol/m²/s). Above it the leaf gains sugar; below it the leaf loses sugar.
Into the cave
Now Olly's leaf goes into a dim cave. There is only a tiny bit of light.
The leaf makes less sugar than it uses. It is using up its food!
Move the leaf into the cave and turn the light down to 10, a tiny glow. The leaf still does a little photosynthesis, about 0.6 units of carbon dioxide. But it still burns about 1 unit for respiration.
So the net photosynthesis readout goes below zero, to about −0.4. Instead of adding sugar, the leaf is eating into its stores, losing about 0.09 grams over the two-hour run. In total darkness it would lose more than twice as fast. A plant that stays like this slowly uses up its food.
At I = 10 µmol/m²/s, gross photosynthesis falls to 0.6 µmol/m²/s while respiration stays at 1.0, so net photosynthesis is −0.4 µmol/m²/s, a loss of about 0.05 g glucose/m²/h; the two-hour run ends at −0.09 g/m². At I = 0 the loss is −1.0 µmol/m²/s.
Caves are often cool. At 12 °C the model leaf respires only 0.41 µmol/m²/s, and break-even light falls to 16, but at I = 10 it still loses sugar (net −0.1). A cooler leaf loses more slowly; it does not break even. Only with carbon dioxide at its 1,200 ppm maximum and the leaf near 17 °C does the model leaf at I = 10 just reach zero.
Why the plant runs out
A plant needs light to make sugar. But it uses sugar all the time, even in the dark.
In a dark cave, the sugar goes out faster than it comes in.
A plant's cells are always busy, so they always need energy. They get it by breaking down sugar, day and night. Making new sugar, though, needs light.
In bright light, the sugar made is far bigger than the sugar used, so the plant can grow. As the light dims, the sugar made shrinks, but the sugar used does not. At the break-even light the two are equal. Below it, the plant runs at a loss, like spending more pocket money than you earn. The model shows one typical sunlit leaf with plenty of water. Real plants that grow in shade can manage on less light than this leaf.
Photosynthesis runs only in the light, while respiration continues day and night in every living cell, using the sugars that photosynthesis produced. Net photosynthesis is gross fixation minus respiration; the light compensation point is the light at which they balance.
In the model, gross photosynthesis follows I/(I + 300), so at very low light it is nearly proportional to light, while respiration is a fixed 1 × 2^((T − 25)/10). The model describes one generic sun leaf of a C3 plant with ample water and nutrients. Shade-adapted species work at lower light, real leaves acclimatize, and the model does not say how long a whole plant could live on its stored reserves.
Real caves and their plants
At a cave's mouth, green plants grow in the daylight. Deep inside, it is totally dark, and no plants grow.
In some caves, people put up lamps. Then green slime grows near the lamps!
Scientists divide caves into zones. The entrance zone gets sunlight, and green plants grow there. Further in is the twilight zone, where little sunlight reaches; at Oregon Caves, mosses grow in these dim areas near the entrances. Deepest of all is the dark zone, in total darkness, where no plants can make food.
In caves that visitors tour, electric lights change things. At Carlsbad Caverns, algae grow in the dark zone near the artificial lights, and park staff keep them under control. Scientists call this lamp-loving growth lampenflora. It can stain and damage cave rock. Cave staff clean it off, and scientists are testing whether gentler lighting could help.
Missouri State Parks describe three cave zones: an entrance zone that receives sunlight and holds green plants; a twilight zone where little sunlight reaches and, typically, no plant life is found; and a dark zone in total darkness. The National Park Service notes that at Oregon Caves, mosses thrive in the twilight zones near entrances, so the boundary depends on the cave and the plant.
Artificial lighting creates new light where there was none. The NPS says algae grow near the lights in Carlsbad Cavern's dark zones and are kept under control by staff. A 2021 study of Carlsbad Cavern (Havlena and colleagues, Applied and Environmental Microbiology) describes these algae and cyanobacteria, called lampenflora, as unsightly and damaging to speleothems; bleach is the most common treatment, and changing light intensity and wavelength might be gentler.
Amazing facts
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Some caves are very, very long.
Explorers have surveyed and mapped more than 426 miles of passages in Mammoth Cave, Kentucky.
More than 426 miles of passage have been surveyed and mapped at Mammoth Cave (NPS).
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Plants look green because they bounce green light back.
Chlorophyll soaks up blue and red light and reflects green light, which is why leaves look green.
Chlorophyll absorbs mainly blue and red wavelengths and reflects green (National Geographic Education).
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A lamp close to a plant gives it only a little light.
A 40-watt fluorescent lamp half a meter away gives a plant about 30 units of light, compared with about 2,000 in full sunlight.
A 40 W fluorescent lamp at 0.5 m supplies about 30 µmol/m²/s, versus about 2,000 in full sunlight (University of Florida IFAS).
Words to know
- photosynthesis
- how green plants use light to make sugar from water and carbon dioxide
- respiration
- how living cells break down sugar to get energy, day and night
- net photosynthesis
- the sugar a leaf makes minus the sugar it uses
- compensation point
- the light level at which a leaf makes exactly as much sugar as it uses (break-even light)
- dark zone
- the deepest part of a cave, where there is no daylight at all
- lampenflora
- algae and other tiny green living things that grow near the lamps in caves
Discovery challenge
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In the dim cave, does the leaf make more sugar or use more sugar?
At a light of 10, what does the net photosynthesis readout show?
What is net photosynthesis at I = 10 µmol/m²/s and 25 °C?
- It uses more: about −0.4
- It makes more: about 11.7
- Exactly zero
Show the answer
It uses more: about −0.4
It uses more sugar than it makes.
About −0.4: the leaf burns more sugar than it makes.
−0.4 µmol/m²/s: gross 0.6 minus respiration 1.0.
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About how much light does Olly's leaf need just to break even?
At 25 °C, what does the break-even light readout show?
What is the model's light compensation point at 420 ppm and 25 °C?
- About 18
- About 800
- About 2,000
Show the answer
About 18
About 18, a lot less than sunshine, but more than the cave.
About 18 units, more than the cave's 10.
18 µmol/m²/s, under 1 percent of full sunlight.
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Does making the leaf cool, like a cave, let it make more sugar than it uses at a light of 10?
Cool the leaf to 12 °C with the light at 10. Does it break even?
At 12 °C and I = 10, is net photosynthesis positive?
- No, it still loses a little
- Yes, it makes lots of sugar
- Yes, exactly half
Show the answer
No, it still loses a little
No. It loses sugar more slowly, but it still loses.
No: net is about −0.1. Break-even light falls to 16, still above 10.
No: net −0.1 µmol/m²/s; the compensation point is 16.
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Where in a cave do green plants grow?
Which zone of a cave has green plants?
In which cave zone are green plants typically found?
- Near the sunny entrance
- In the totally dark zone
- Everywhere inside
Show the answer
Near the sunny entrance
Near the entrance, where the sunshine reaches.
The entrance zone, which gets sunlight.
The sunlit entrance zone; the dark zone has none, apart from lampenflora near artificial lights.
Experiments to try
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if plants received less light? Green leaves use light to turn water and carbon dioxide into sugar, their food. In our model leaf, cut the light to a quarter and watch how much sugar it still makes, then find out how some forest trees manage to live in deep shade.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if plants had more carbon dioxide? Leaves build sugar out of carbon dioxide from the air, using the energy in light. Some greenhouse growers add extra carbon dioxide on purpose. Raise the carbon dioxide around a model leaf from today's level to more than double and see how much faster it makes sugar, and why it soon stops helping as much.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if a greenhouse got too hot? Plants grow best when it is warm, but not too warm. Heat up a model leaf from a comfortable 25 °C to a scorching 45 °C and watch two things change at once: the leaf makes sugar more slowly, and it burns sugar faster. At some point it burns more than it makes.
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- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if plants received less light? Green leaves use light to turn water and carbon dioxide into sugar, their food. In our model leaf, cut the light to a quarter and watch how much sugar it still makes, then find out how some forest trees manage to live in deep shade.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if plants had more carbon dioxide? Leaves build sugar out of carbon dioxide from the air, using the energy in light. Some greenhouse growers add extra carbon dioxide on purpose. Raise the carbon dioxide around a model leaf from today's level to more than double and see how much faster it makes sugar, and why it soon stops helping as much.
- Watch Try it What If? Lab What if a greenhouse got too hot? Plants grow best when it is warm, but not too warm. Heat up a model leaf from a comfortable 25 °C to a scorching 45 °C and watch two things change at once: the leaf makes sugar more slowly, and it burns sugar faster. At some point it burns more than it makes.
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Phong Nha–Ke Bang National Park
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Son Doong Cave
Son Doong is a cave in the mountains of central Vietnam, inside Phong Nha–Ke Bang National Park. A river carved it, and its main passage is so wide and tall that a whole city block of skyscrapers could fit inside. Explorers first went in only in 2009. UNESCO says it holds the world's largest documented cave passage.
For parents & teachers
What children will learn
- Plants make sugar by photosynthesis only in light but use sugar in respiration all the time.
- Net photosynthesis is what is left after respiration; below a break-even light a plant runs at a loss.
- Caves have entrance, twilight and dark zones, and green plants need the light near the entrance.
- Artificial lights in show caves let algae grow where none could before, which can harm the cave.
Recommended ages: 12 to 17 ยท About 15 minutes
Talk about it
- Why does a plant still need sugar when it is not growing?
- Why might cool air help a plant in the dark last a little longer?
- Should show caves turn their lights off when no visitors are there? What are the trade-offs?
Try at home or in class
- Put one small potted plant in a dark cupboard and keep an identical one on a sunny windowsill for a week, watering both the same. Compare their color and how they have grown, then return the cupboard plant to the light.
- In the lab, keep the light at 10 and try every temperature from 0 to 30 °C. Write down the break-even light each time. At which temperature is it lowest?
Key vocabulary: photosynthesis, respiration, net photosynthesis, compensation point, dark zone, lampenflora
Where these facts come from
- Plant resistance to stress: role of respiration? , Encyclopedia of the Environment (Pierre Dizengremel, Université de Lorraine)
- Photosynthesis , National Geographic Education
- Light, Light Radiation (Plant Propagation) , University of Florida IFAS, with the University of Kentucky and Texas A&M University
- Life in a Cave (Onondaga Cave State Park) , Missouri State Parks
- Natural Features & Ecosystems (Oregon Caves) , US National Park Service
- Marine Plants / Algae (Carlsbad Caverns) , US National Park Service
- Lighting Effects on the Development and Diversity of Photosynthetic Biofilm Communities in Carlsbad Cavern, New Mexico (Havlena et al., Applied and Environmental Microbiology, 2021) , University of South Florida Digital Commons
- Frequently Asked Questions (Mammoth Cave) , US National Park Service
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